Central Montana Prospectors
Central Montana Prospectors

Meetings Coming Up

For your information:

     The Montana Department of Environmental Quality will hold an additional public meeting in Great Falls for the draft EIS for the proposed Black Butte Copper Project. The additional meeting will be in Great Falls on April 24, from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at Great Falls High School Upper Fieldhouse, 1900 2th Ave.,(entrance to the south side of the building, at the intersection of 5th Ave South and 19th Street).

     DEQ's public meetings and comment period associated with the Black Butte Copper Project EIS are outlined below:
     Public Meetings and two Webinars have been scheduled to allow
stakeholders to submit oral comments on the Draft EIS:
    *   April 24, 2019 from :00 to 9:00 p.m. at Great Falls High School
Upper Fieldhouse, 1900 2th Ave., Great Falls, Montana
    *   April 29, 2019 from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at Park High School, 102
View Vista Dr., Livingston, Montana
    *   April 30, 2019 from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at the White Sulphur
Springs High School, 405 S. Central Ave., White Sulphur Springs,
Montana
    *   May 1 and May 2, 2019, webinars, 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. Sign into the meetings at this link http://deq.mt.gov/Land/hardrock/Tintina-EIS
      Written comments may be submitted at the public meetings, via
electronic mail at TintinaDraftEIS@mt.gov<mailto:tintinaDrafteis@mt.gov>, or postal mail at: Craig Jones Department of Environmental Quality P.O. Box 200901 Helena, MT 59601

 

I Got a Fairy Stone!

     The vendor at the Helena Gem and Mineral Show said, "The fairy stone can be found on the sandy shore and is a formation made of calcite."  He said you can read about it on the internet.

      The internet search sends one to the shores of Virginia, to the bottom of Canadian lakes, or to read about a Cherokee lore of healing qualities of this unusual touchy feelie light weight stone.  Learning about the healing effects of this unique piece is also spell binding. 

     But really, to have and to own a fairy stone puts you on a new threshold of ownership found nowhere else in the world! Soon you will see a write up on our healing page. But for now, know that fairy stones flourish!!

 

All Things That Sparkle 

      The gem and mineral shows across Montana in the springtime feature a gigantic array of choices of stones, novelties, fossils, rocks, minerals, anomalies, and the hard to find items. Stories of seeking adventure for their finds abound as well. The earth's treasures from all over the world are on display. But the samples have its draw. So many pieces to garner your attention to hop in your pocket with laying down some cash to take home.

     Certainly, the history that lies in each morsel of earth's beauty can be at your fingertips to examine and mull over for your weekend perusal. 

      The Helena Mineral Society puts on a two-day event with opportunities on the second floor level to examine sapphires in the gravel, play games with the rocks, and a silent auction that moves rapidly throughout the day. The displays are perfect, and the entire family finds lots of curious objects to feast the eyes upon. Lustville prevails; all life's desires can be found at these shows. You will love them.

Dinosaurs Signed in Law

     Apparently, Governor Steve Bullock got into some dinosaur action. Two giants died while fighting on the range, got fossilized over time, but the courts have juggled with the topic of just who owns the millions of dollars worth of their bones.

     Is it the surface rights holder or do those bones belong to the mineral rights owner? Our state legislature weighed in on the topic, and Governor Bullock signed into law the verdict. We'll see how it will turn out eventually, but check it out on the news channel. https://www.abcfoxmontana.com/regional/governor-signs-bill-clarifying-ownership-rights-to-fossils/article_16603df1-c730-5974-b9bc-38deb24c8466.html

Best Place to Dig in Montana

      Crystal Park out of Dillon, made the top place to dig in Montana. For decades families have gone there to have the bonding experience of digging in the dirt and finding crystals underground in those giant gopher holes.

      Check out what the latest posting on the internet says that is in store for you if you put this on your calendar for the summer. It's worthy and the hot springs nearby will soak your weary bones. Good prospecting.  https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/montana/crystal-park-mt/?fbclid=IwAR3o7se9VLOP9IXB5aThdGBzLY2iwBN4acLxPPr3yQLFyOYanI8m3nq5thc

Rock and Mineral Shows in Montana R Fabulous 3 More in May and one in June to See Like This!!

The Publication Has Arrived

      In 2017 in October an attendee got a small copy of the abstracts that were to be presented at the Symposium offered by the Montana Bureau of Mines and Geology.

      This last October attendees were notified they would receive the copy about January of 2019. It just arrived in the mail April 8th, and it is such a treat to hold in your hand. Having taken copious notes to savor all the knowledge exchanged while listening to this myriad of topics presented, to have the visual reference to thumb through is just fabulous. I am sure the time it took to get all the t's crossed and the i's dotted took perseverance. But none the less, the arrival is welcome and I would imagine available for inquirers to the Bureau. You just might enjoy it as well. It's a masterpiece.

Going Mini

      With a quick trip up to Gold Fox, in Conrad, Montana, one can find new products on the counter of Kelly Fowler's workshop. They are the hottest selling items on the market. They fit in a backpack, have a waterproof battery pack and can last a long time in the woods for processing gravel both with this trommel and a mini high banker too.

      You can slap your money down, and wait to get your equipment shortly, but you get put on a list for when they go into full production. 

      These machines are the creation from the genius prospecting mind of an innovative developer who knows his stuff. His Little Monster was fabulous, but their two, new products are the best there is out on the market for ease, efficiency and design. Fabulous prospecting finds a notch below the gold nugget itself.

Billings Rock Shop

      Want to take your rock breath away? Try stopping into the Stones and Bones rock shop on 24th in Billings and see what you will feel when you open the door and step into the room filled with every kind of rock imaginable. 

       Crystal, the operator exhibits knowledgeable skills of many uses of the stone from decorative, healing, lapidary, and more, and is ready and willing to answer any of your questions about rock hounding in Montana, and all over the world. Her rocks rock!!

      Just the choices of pendulums is an eye catcher, plus all the egg rocks all in a circular fashion. The fossil display is profound, and whatever avenue of rock pursuits you might have, certainly she can answer your questions. Stop by for the rock of your life. It's amazing. 

 

Rock, Mineral and Fossil Shows in Montana

      With a quick Google search one can find a list of where the rock and gem shows are around Montana. The first one that came up was on the Helena Mineral Society's webpage. Check out the list here of places to visit to rub shoulders with those who want to seek the minerals. Here is the list. Put them on your calendar for weekend destination this season.

Rock and Mineral Shows

                      April 13-14    Helena, Montana at the Civic Center 340 Neil Ave.

                  May 4-5         Billings, Montana

                  May 11-12      Bozeman, Montana

                  May 18-19     Hamilton, Montana

                  June 15-16    Butte, Montana

 

 

Does a Heavy Winter Snowfall Help Prospecting In Montana?

      While safe in town the recreational prospector who is mostly homebound watching the news and checking out weather channels can rest assured that the more snow that melts, the more opportunity there is  to wash down the gold that is unearthed regularly through the spring runoff.

      Right outside Great Falls it was reported that there are 9 culverts on the road up to Hughesville, and old mining town that act as perfect sluices with the snow melting pushes the heavy gold to the nooks and crannies of the metal tubes so a prospector just doesn't have to work too hard to garner the gold.

      Try it out, see what you can find because the entire state of Montana is full of gold and it is our heritage to access our natural resources this way. May all that glitters be in your gold pan soon. 

Don't Underestimate the Power of China to Influence Our Minerals

      Story told today about China flooding the market with cheap minerals driving the market down in order to put out an American company out of business. Foreign countries affect our mining operations here and their resources. When we are dependent upon foreign minerals, other countries can affect our market value for many precious metals.

      It is the critical metals that the US is dependent upon, almost to the 100% level that are affecting decisions in Washington DC. The demand for these rare earth metals for technology's needs and specialty manufacturing processes have increased our issues in the US. More freedoms to mine and prospect need to happen in order to develop mining independence. Why do you think the only platinum mine in the US in Montana was bought by a foreign country? There is a crucial need for it. 

Make Like a Drone

       While you are socked in with the igloo effect of snow with trails to your backdoor, don't fret, your imagination can fill the prospecting bill and take you away to a land of make believe for the moment. 

      Those exploration plans for the warmer weather can fetch adventure if you think of all the places in Montana you can go while on a destination point of travel. For instance, just recently in thinking about mining for opals out of Nevada for the Memorial Day weekend, the thought occurred of all the places in Montana that could be checked out along the pathway out of the state. I felt like a drone, covering and hovering over sites between Great Falls and the Montana border. When you know and hear of spots for prospecting, why not incorporate a few stops for sampling the rivers and streams and remote places in between to add a little spice to the rock life of ours.

     The sparkly thrills of planning a prospecting weekend can twinkle in your eye now with the visual imagination droning can bring. Find your spot to get some earthen goodies now, so when you launch out your summer exploratories you are right on target for fun and the bounty.

     May the blessings begin with you and your desire to be successful in prospecting with a Montana droning effect. There are lots of site that can be seen from above that will prove fruitful to you. It's application of your skills on the ground eventually that combine with the aerial that bear fruit. 

Flocking to Montana

      Opportunities abound with former Montanans who come back here in the summer to enjoy our great outdoors. Just today spoke with one who knows of an antimony mine just south of Thompson Falls he explored while growing up there. Gonna connect up with him and explore the gold that comes in the area as well. Putting it on my calendar right now.

     The other Texan source of love for this state has a claim out of Helena that he has developed with friends and the US Forest Service with their plan of operations that has been accepted. For one month the bunch avidly dig in our soil for the hopes of landing some shiny. Summer prospecting plans are being laid right now. 

Read All About It!!

     That wanderlust got ahold of you midwinter? Satisfy it with a Tucson Show Guide. Flip through the pages and feast your eyes upon the multitude of ingenious ideas that vendors design to pop in your eyes the drive for the sparkly, shiny stones the earth has to divulge.

     Oh, my, what a trip you can have from sitting right at your desktop and touring the sea of aisles set out for the rock hungry minded. Order now, so you can see what awaits you if you up and decide you might like to join the many snowbirds who fly from Montana to Arizona way seeking the comfort of the warm temperatures. 

      The international appeal of stones, gems, and artifacts from all over the world with vendors who know the business is great. They seek transactions with you. Join in the fun some how.

Barite Crystals: Where can they be found in Montana?

       Looked this question up on the internet and here is what it said: Boulder River Barite Nice cubic crystals of barite can be found about five miles west of the Whitehouse campground along the Boulder River. Take the Bernice exit off I-15 between Basin and Butte. It is about five miles to the campground. For information, call Montana Tech at 406-496-4395

     Just sounds like to me, this might get put on a list for 2019 prospecting for the summer. If you can buy them at Rockin' Rudy's in Missoula, why not go out in Montana and dig your own? It's worth a try. If you want more ideas of where to go in Montana, check out this website; it has some good ideas with specifics: http://southwestmt.com/maps/gw_rockhoundingmap.pdf

Bringing the Rocks Home

      When those shiny pieces of rock call out to you from a shelf, you ask yourself, "Can I go find them in Montana?" Names fall off websites of rocks that can be found in the search that one has never heard of: scheelite, epidote and argillite. Places to find these are listed and those definitely need researching. 

      Rock searching means that your Montana exploration mode gets kicked on and in the middle of winter, we are getting ready to make prospecting plans for the summer.

      With memories of stories told at the Montana Bureau of Mining and Geology seminar, a presenter spoke about Gold Creek being the first place for prospectors to find gold in Montana, one wants to search too, now.  With a website giving details of phone numbers to call, more interest is peaked. Hmm...not to repeat the adventures of before, new details work to bring the carrot in front of the donkey. Just how many different places can one person go every weekend through the prospecting season? 

       Looking forward to bringing some interesting specimens home in the new year of 2019 and not just from a Missoula rock shop, but from the deep recesses of the great Montana outback. Building the list right now.

Black Opals: Where did you dig them?

      Perfect question asked of Julie Squires at High Tech Automotive in Great Falls. She said she dug them in Nevada.  Hmm...I want to do that. With a quick search of the internet there are sites there that have it set up so one can mine them yourself.

     It's never too late to set your calendar for next year. A trip to northern Nevada would be perfect for Memorial Day weekend or Labor Day when there is a three day openness. 

      Her issue today was where to store them or what to do with them now. Organization of your rocks is a big issue with women who like rocks. Many are still in my car and kids entering it admire them. They are like scenes of mystery and interest. I bet this is a much better trip than hitting up Spencer, Idaho. Check out this website for further information. http://nevada-outback-gems.com/Rockhound/Nevada_opal_virgin.htm   This destination might be a good one for planning 2019 prospecting ideas.

Mining Rights Turmoil: Expect to Fight for Your Mining Rights

       In the newspapers across Montana was the article about Arnold Bakie who finally won his 10-year battle with big mining companies to the tune of $2.6 million dollar settlement, just to lose his battle with life 2 days later.

      But some points in the articles about this story are things one learn after consulting for a time with mining rights activists in Montana. You learn very quickly there are conniving, deceitful behaviors when it comes to the minerals in the land. Big mining companies see the silver, copper or whatever as their right to access over the common man. But with determination, one can prevail, and in this case the family will benefit down the road.

       The big mistake that is made is the fact that some organizations such as the USFS or mining companies, in this case, want to determine how far below the ground a claim can go. A prospecting claim goes all the way to China, if need be. It is owned by the prospector with the claim, channeling through it sideways doesn't make it legitimate. 

        In this case, it meant huge sums of money to Manatore and its various subsidiaries or connections. It was worth $8 billion to them in the Cabinet Mountain Wilderness. The company wanted to tunnel through his claim, which they had no right to do and he won. He fought them and won!! He made mining history for us all. He set a precedence by fighting for his rights. I honor him and his family. The little guy can win because there are prospecting rights that go with governmental claims in forest land. 

      May Arnold get a spot in heaven to help shine down upon us prospectors who want to stand our ground. We need all the help we can get when it comes to greed and the heavy hand of mining interests especially from out of this country. Read more: https://apnews.com/a53bd8864e884b47920477ba88f32b2d

The Source of Our Money in Fort Knox

      Lots of descriptions of how gold is formed were presented in Butte. The graphics, which some presenter called "cartoons" (oh no you don't!!) means you have a description of the changing of the earth's crust forming pockets where that shiny stuff breeds (pardon the description). 

     That yellow stuff rushes into peculiar places as the earth cools and a University of Montana geologist describes it perfectly here: http://www.umt.edu/this-is-montana/columns/stories/montana-gold.php

Montana Volcano

     Did you know that Montana has a volcano and we are sitting on it? That's one thing learned at the symposium in Butte, Montana recently. The descriptions of it is provided with this statement The last time the Yellowstone supervolcano erupted was 640,000+ years ago. The Yellowstone eruption area collapsed upon itself, creating a sunken giant crater or caldera 1,500 square miles in area. The magmatic heat powering that eruption (and two others, dating back 2.1 million years) still powers the park’s famous geysers, hot springs, fumaroles, and mud pots. 

Here's an interesting site that says more: https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/yellowstone-supervolcano

Trippy Rocks

      At the gathering of rock and mineral hounds, there was an Idaho rock trader who had gone to the Tuscon Gem and Mineral Show 46 times in his life. With such jaunts, one begins to know the vendors and their benefits.

      One of those vendors offered to take a group of 8 people to Morocco, take a list of rocks sought after and make sure there would be trips to dig for those stones in the 10 days for $1000 out of Arizona. Sounds like a deal; more to come.

Know Your Rocks!!

      Don't be like a family in Michigan and use a 100K meteorite as a door stop! Explore, learn, and hear about the value of rocks by attending a symposium in Butte, Montana October 10-13 and learn about rocks everywhere. So, now that it is over, you can still search out the dandies at the Montana Bureau of Mining and Geology Museum. Lots to see.

  You will not only see rocks from around these parts, but there are. African rocks that are gorgeous and unique. On display is the huge gold nugget taken right out of the ground in Butte. Check out what the news is on the meteorite, however, right here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-rock-used-as-a-doorstop-for-the-past-30-years-turns-out-to-be-a-meteorite-valued-at-dollar100k/ar-BBNXE3R?li=BBnb7Kz

Here's an Idea for Winter Panning to Satisfy Your Prospecting Pleasure at Home

Clever Techniques to Fish for Gold, See a Prospecting Shop, and Learn How to Bake Your Black Sands for Easy Panning with Separating Them from the Gold

Seven Rivers in Montana that are Full of Gold

       If and when you get the itch to ditch a prospecting club and strike out on your own, to make a plan of an independent venture, look no further than government land on any of the seven rivers listed on this web site. You can set up shop, go to work with your sluice or gold pan, and/or bring home gravel to work; either way, the possibilities is unlimited because "gold is always being unearthed every day in the world." Is the lucky number 7http://raregoldnuggets.com/?p=4564

Hear or See Where People are Finding Gold; Want to Know More So You Can Stake a Claim Nearby....

      Here's how you do it. Call up Peggy Delaney at the Montana Bureau of Mines and Geology. She looks up on her computer all the details of the area that you think might have gold on the land. She gives you the exact location with the township, range and section so you can find it physically. 

     Then you can go to the Montana Cadastral and look up two views of the land so you know what you are looking at in several different directions. You can get the entire details on any site or claim if you want to. She ID's whether the nearby land is USFS or BLM so you know who to go to for more information. Peggy is such a great resource of all information about claims and mining site and more. The best!! She is the Program Leader in the Mining Archives and her email is MDelaney@mtech.edu or find her on www.mbmg.mtech.edu Public information is handy!!

A Highly Developed Montana Gold Mine with Multiple Levels of Clever Systems Set Up and Working to Find Gold

A Video Just for the Fun of It!!

Get Gold Without Leaving Town 

     Want to sit at home, make a call, and order your gold without leaving town? You can do that right here in the state of Montana by making a call to Top O Deep, a company out of Ronana that sells their gold from their claim in the Garnet Mountains or from miners in Washington or Alaska.

     Either way you look at it, you can get a $15 dollar bag of pay dirt with plenty of gold in it, have Ralph put in a $25 gold nugget and voila, you have a great birthday, anniversary, or holiday gift of the perfect nature. Just call 1-406-676-3503 and have him send you some for your stash of finds.  They are at 37185 Little Marten Rd, in Ronan, Mt 59864. You will be happy to hold your gold in your hand.

Smokey the Bear: Hear This!!

    The first line of your letter says you are a dirty BOOGER!!! No if's, and's or BUTTs about it.

     Here's why: It's your job to provide access to prospector's claims in the forest. You were told that when the government couldn't afford roads into the woods and the country needed development. So prospectors built them long before you were born and when you came around you played King of the Hill and close roads and play games of the claim holders. Bad boys.

    Here's just some of your many unsavory tactics: You make the prospecting club build their own culvert and bridge which is your job. Then you dictate who is at the meeting, excluding women. Then say you are going to deliver a POO Plan 2 1/2 years later, not following your rules of 15 day return notice, keep a reclamation bond for years and stopped mining operations for that long, use your position to negotiate your job to be done by someone else and various, other unsavory lies and mismanagement. Why are you allowed to do this? Stomping on prospecting rights of access all over the place is not in your job description, but you do it anyhow, because of power hungry tactics. Redirection is overdue!!

     

The Forest Service Shuffle: Let's Dance

     Isn't there a term for heads rollin? Start documenting the power hungry levels or inefficient bureaucratic bs and all of sudden things happen. Last year the United States Forest Service was dictating, "We're taking away your access to your claim (and we don't have to follow any rules!)

     Oops this year, with meetings with state level and national level advisors we have our access back, a 3 year stall on a Plan of Operation signed (too late for this season, due 3 years ago) but the USFS gets: a "Men's Club", the ability to write their  supervisor's letters, distribution of lies and promises, the opportunity to kick the woman under the bus, and make the prospectors provide the Forest Service's job of putting in access, all so they can negotiate instead of dictate.

     Now the supervisor Bill Avey is moved out of the district, a woman is brought in temporarily, and change happens. Trouble is the perpetrator is still there.  The prospecting claim holders made some movement up the food chain; it matters not who is eaten in the process by the Forest Service.

The Office of Civil Rights in Washington DC is very helpful. They ask questions, give you answers, send you forms to fill out for violations of your civil rights and want to know details. Then they explain the process of how they handle the reports with each step. The Lincoln Forest Ranger didn't sound too good to them. Using his office to discriminate against women. That's a NO No. Had a 120 days to report it; did it in one. A comment given: with all the jockeying of employees, it almost sounds like ADMISSION OF GUILT!

Harassment of the Prospector

      Memorial Day in Zortman, Montana, the Yellowstone Prospecting Group can dig up the creekbed and make giant piles of rock and gravel in the middle of the road blocking it and BLM accepts, "We are working as fast as we can!"

     The Libby prospectors can dig out the hillside, work and block long areas with multiple trommels and water hoses everywhere with USFS approval.

     But the Lincoln District Forest Service will not allow the Blackfoot River Chapter of GPAA to do their simple plan of digging a hole for gravel for club members for two years now without any repreive in sight. The giant disparity is excruciatingly horrendous proving there are no limits to the extent of power the giant bullying by the USFS goes. We have to suffer at the hands of a federal agency that has been allowed to go too far and too long with the citizens of Montana who are stakeholders here. Where is the balance, leadership, and fairness for the prospector? Then they keep your bond money for years after the reclamation is completed satisfactorily and won't return it to the club, but rather put stipulations to it about going to an individual, not a group? Logic gone, only power remains. More to add: The USFS told our prospecting group point blank they didn't have to follow the ADA or Americans with Disabilities Act. Here's a quote right from their prospecting handout that states otherwise: The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) prohibits discrimination in all its programs and activities on the basis of race, color, national origin, age, disability, and where applicable, sex, marital status, familial status, parental status, religion, sexual orientation, genetic information, political beliefs, reprisal, or because all or part of an individual's income is derived from any public assistance program. (Not all prohibited bases apply to all programs.) Persons with disabilities who require alternative means for communication of program information (Braille, large print, audiotape, etc.) should contact USDA's TARGET Center at (202) 720-2600 (voice and TDD). To file a complaint of discrimination, write to USDA, Director, Office of Civil Rights, 1400 Independence Avenue, S.W., Washington, D.C. 20250-9410, or call (800) 795-3272 (voice) or (202) 720-6382 (TDD). USDA is an equal opportunity provider and employer.  I think I will write a complaint about the Ranger in Lincoln District Michael Stansberry for what he said. 

 

Another note to add to the complaint to the Office of Civil Rights: Apparently Michael Stansberry, the ranger out of Lincoln, Montana thinks he is above the law AGAIN!!!! He stipulated he would only meet with the men of the club, exclude the representative woman, and thinks that is appropriate. Get this Michael Stansberry: That is discrimination and your terms of employment prohibit that. Apparently you don't know what you are doing and think you are above the law!!  This dude needs to lose his job or get some serious training exercises. I know: he's been in the woods too long. He's got that Lincoln, Cabin Fever!! He needs a change. 

Respecting the Rights of the Prospector

     The Helena District of the USFS is conducting public meetings about the proposed use of the forest land all over.  It appears that their intent is to use a majority of votes for the use of land with designation of various levels of use without the inclusion of the rights of claim holders in the areas. Each claim has the mineral rights to all the land below the surface.

      Last year at the annual symposium in Butte the Montana Bureau of Mining and Geology had presentations of a two year process where the staff had visited all 8000 claims and determined if they were active or viable. They have current records of all across our state. If the USFS doesn't include the information from this Bureau developed in 1910. they are excluding the rights of the prospector of accessing their claims. This means the government agency is above the law and thinks they don't have to follow it.  Closing off  roads, and wilderness areas with active claims is illegal because the prospector has a right to access their claims whether the USFS thinks they have a territorial determination or not. Without the knowledge of what is recorded in the Bureau, proceedings are not being conducted properly. Viable information is being excluded. And decisions are being made without complete knowledge of ownership of what. 

  Gemstones Found on this Website:

       Two years of traveling around the state of Montana exploring places to prospect for gems, fossils, specialty rocks, and gold then returning to write up the experience for you to see and learn from is an invaluable assest for you to access from your computer at home.

       If you click on Treasure Hunting Year 1 Treasure Hunting Year 1 and Treasure Hunting Year 2 Treasure Hunting Year 2, click on the gold button, it will open you up to descriptions of what you might find on each site. This "trippin'" occured from the middle of May through the end of September for both years. That is a wealth of information with many excursions for your perusal. The array is far better than you can find in a book, because it is provable, true and direct. Check these links to make your summer time plans. With preplanning and exposure to your potential sites, better experiences are gained. 

 

 

Effects of Government Implementation on Mining Claims

Charter Differences

The charter for the US Forest Service says it is in the business of selling trees. When they operate with bullying the prospector with a mining claim, making up rules, aren't they operating out of their jurisdiction??? 

Who's on First? 

The Mining Laws of 1872 were created by the Congress and invited the US citizen to go and prospect on the land out West. This was long before the US Forest Service was ever created. Does the prospector take precdence over the USFS?

BLM vs US Forest Service

The prospector has to fill out endless forms for their claims with BLM and there is no further contact with them. The US Forest Service makes up their own rules to govern the claims. Two departments confusing the public and themselves. 

Regional Differences

Discover this...if your claim is in one region supervised by one USFS official, and is compared to another there is a vast difference and some can be held hostage to the lack of consistency in operations. Discrimination can rule.

Additional Points to Consider with Mining Claims

Volleying Repsonsibility

When one needs to address state or federal authorities about inequities in treatment with prospecting claims, don't get caught in the volley between state vs federal. It is happening in your state so let them know you won't accept blame placement elsewhere. 

No Rule Book 

In the prospectors' defense know there is no rule book. The USFS makes up stuff as they go to see if they can get away with it. Example: Lincoln District said our club could only dig 10 feet deep. Placer claims have all minerals below the ground no matter how deep it goes. Fake rules!!

Prior Presence

If the USFS decides they are going to close the road to your claim, one point to make in your rebuttal to their demands is that access has been there for a long time and the club or claim owner expect that access to continue, especially if there is no inclusion in the decision. Notification is key.

Not Included

If the USFS claims ownership of any of your mining claim such as moving your tailings or making changes to your claim, know that if there has been meetings with the fire district or for water issues, if they haven't notified the mining interest in their decisions, they are in violation of procedures of  fairness in operations.

 

Montana Recreational Interactive Map

Most of  these dots are reviewed  in our Treasure Hunting 2016 and Treasure Hunting 2017 pages. 

Just click the orange links to learn more about all these sites.

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  • Hopeless #1 GPAA Claim
  • Blackfoot River Chapter
  • Zortman
  • Libby Creek National Gold Panning Area
  • Lucky Dawg # 1 2 3 GPAA Claim
  • Golden Back Achers GPAA Claim
  • Ole Miner
  • Bacon And Beans GPAA Claim
  • The Montana Blue Jewel Mine
  • Gem Mountain Sapphire Mine
  • Spokane Bar Sapphire Mine
  • Blaze N Gems
  • Crystal Park
  • Ruby Reservoir
  • Spencer Opal Mine

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  • Montana Petrified Forest
  • Great Plains Dinosaur Museum
  • Blaine County Museum
  • Earth Science Museum
  • Mineral Museum
  • Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum
  • Baischs Dinosaur Digs LLC
  • Museum of The Rockies

 

NEWESTWhat did Montana have to offer at the World's Fair in Chicago? on. Historical Learn a disadvantage of a prospecting club on... Other Clubs. December's  newsletter just posted on  Newsletter! getting caught up soon.  Have you looked at the drop down buttons on the rock page? There are more elements than just one aspect. What metalloid can be mined in Montana that helps with microelectronics? check it out on... Rocks. Make plans to head to Butte mid October; a mining symposium coming you don't want to miss here . A stone can help you balance your energies of life on. Educational.  Learn how baby T Rex's looked all feathery and fuzzy as babies on...or what about scientists recreating the woolly mammoth? on.... and what about the latest find of the biggest T-Rex ever... Fossils. Try a small, easy book to check out your rock passion on. Book Reviews. Want to grow you own crystals? or See what kind of fun a kid can create making fake rock people on: Kids. Will the bull trout reign supreme (NOPE!!)or will the USFS come up with an alternative plan for a culvert? Now just who uses dredges in our state?  see who .....  Latest News   What about checking in on a rock and mining symposium? or What about not getting dirty or leaving town to find rocks   on... Treasure Hunting 2018 Video on a quick tool to make gravel bucket gathering speedy. Tools of the Trade. See what a propsector plans on doing to go out next year in tough, hard to reach places in the mountains of Montana on... Prospecting Stories Can one get a prospecting tip at a show?...  Prospecting Tips.

 

NEWER: Check out what a prospecting advisor has to say about your rights on: Interviews. Try a kitchen tool to find gold on:  Tools of TheTradeConsider your losses when using this tool on... Gold. Can thundereggs help you? Find out  on...  Healing Stones Find out what else can be a part of ... Green Prospecting

 

 NEW:  Shortly, hear about the consultations for standing your ground on (It's there!!) .Interviews Check out   a new video by Alan Robertson or think alternative to making something on or see a slick sytem for sorting sapphire bedrock on Let's Make Your Own Equipment . Weigh in on what you think fossils are on... Government plus the latest trials dealing with the USFS. What do 18 buckets boil down to? ... Latest News? See a visit to a new claim and what about the new 50th anniversary of the Mining Guide from? GPAA

 

 

We are a group devoted to the advancement of recreational prospecting in the State of Montana. We are called a coalition as we cover many aspects in the field of prospecting here and we seek to help prospectors with the government.

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