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Flourite at the Top of the Mountain

     While checking out the large maps the geological students at Montana Tech had to show off at the Montana Bureau of Mining and Geology, Frances from Tennesse via French Canadian area, showed the area on Crystal Mountain where he explored and found flourite because he met the owner of the claim and he allowed him to work the area if he would share his thesis paper.

      Frances said he would be willing to arrange a trip to this area outside of Dewey, Montana if we could get it done before the end of May when he has to leave and is done with school.

      Now we are wishing for good springtime weather so we can smash the rocks like he said and out comes the flourite. A smashing successful connection!!

Making Plans to Find the Poo

     If a guy can gather this many pieces of dinosaur poo in a five gallon bucket, I wanna go with him when he looks for them.  I wouldn't necessarily find these pieces when out in the field, but certainly if I was following him and looking in the same places he does, I might be able to find them as well.

     Parly this into a summer trip to Choteau area and see if he can show us how to search and find some dandies like this as well. Oftentimes it takes a guide to bring you along to show you the ropes of the search. 

     Putting this on the agenda for next year might be a good outing to get your own bucket of poo. Gonna try.

Perfect Porta Potty

     What can you do besides sit on a log and hang your bum over it to go potty while out in the woods prospecting? Well, Jesse Buff has a good tip when he showed off his new purchase from Cabelas in Billings he got to stock up his rig when he gets it ready to take off for parts unbeknown.

     It's simple. All you do is put this get up on one of your 5 gallon buckets and voila, you are at the right height like with the normal porcelain bowl you are familiar with. Gotta go get me one for sure. Then I would suppose one would have to get some chemicals or find a place to dispose of your waste as to not attract animals or critters of any kind. 

      I once heard that in order to save a fresh kill in Alaska a girl had to urinate all around an animal carcass so no others would come while they got their supplies to haul it out. Such strategery to protect one's area might come in handy. Gold is worth guarding, you know. 

Get Out and Get Prospecting News: Leads are Always Good

     When one gives the State Park at Bannack a call ahead of time, it gives you opportunity to ask many questions way ahead of your visit. Often times many bits of information comes pouring out. For instance, the word Bon Accord Road on the way to the park is a trip one might want to take to find gold like the local miners do. However, it was said, one would need a four wheel drive to get to your destination. Future plans list.

      The local rangers also get their pay dirt for gold panning from area miners. These miners might just be willing to be generous with you as well. The Bannack Grazing Association was unavailable to get phone calls because apparently the ranch that houses the address is just down the road and they were all at the rodeo in Dillon, so try calling them back for permission to pan in the area when they return. Hmmm...just might have to do that.  

       While in the local hot springs one can get tips as well. The bartender from Pony invited me to prospect in the tailings around there while we were swimming in White Sulphur Springs hot springs. Water brings out news!!

A Math Explanation as to Why it is Easier to Propect with Water 

Helena is Loaded With Prospecting Possibilities

     When bringing the news back to Great Falls about sapphire panning on the Helena Mineral Society's Beverly #1 claim off of the Canyon Ferry Shore, to Delbert Henry at the Missouri River Diner, a customer popped up with, "I know all the sapphire mining men in Helena.

     "Oh, are there more places to go than Blaze's, the Blue Jewell, and the El Dorado Bar?" 

      "Yep," he said. "You can go beyond the sapphire mine signs out of York, to a claim up the hill that belongs to Mike. And you can go passed Unionville and on the left there is a whole wall that is full of black sands. You can go there."

To Morass or Not; Who Will Prevail?

     While negotiating with the State of Montana's Natural Resource men and the USFS it was stated, "Where between the MORASS of 1872 MIning Laws and the USFS present issues can we find common ground?" Well, that might just be the willingness of the government to recognize the significance of claim owners and the law that has been established long before the USFS ever existed.  Hmm..do the laws get thrown out of the operational manual of government organizations, or does the individual rights prevail? 

    The morass just might be in the hearts of the bureaucrats who don't want to work with the people. Hard one to call, but necessary. Our founding forefathers knew what they had experienced with England's power and the three branches of government were created for a reason: to challenge the power hungry.

What if Pitching Your Plan Worked? 

    Ever watched Blaze at Blaze N'Gems run his jig from a day's worth of digging and see his take of sapphires in his hands or pan? Yep, done the same at the neighbor's mine, Blue Jewel. There are lots.

     Now what if you had a buddy and you who wanted to split the cost of a load and have the dump truck full of gravel from a front end loader dig and see it scooped up ?     Just how much do you think it would cost you and would the owners buy your proposition? It's worth a try to see, don't ya think? Will let you know what happens.

Bedrock and Your Search for Gold with Alan Robertson

A Perfect Opportunity for Prospectors to Get On Board for Montana Outdoor Recreation: Read All About It!! But Better Yet, APPLY!!!!!

       Governor Steve Bullock just announced: July 17: Today, I signed an Executive Order creating the Get Outdoors Montana Advisory Council that will guide the efforts of my Office of Outdoor Recreation as we continue to enhance Montana’s outdoor recreation economy.
      Montana is rich in outdoor recreation experience – making it the perfect place for recreation-based industries to thrive and for businesses to grow, while providing employees a way of life that cannot be manufactured.
      The Get Outdoors Montana Advisory Council will support the mission of the Office of Outdoor Recreation, which I established in 2017 to grow and enhance the state’s $7.1 billion outdoor recreation economy that supports over 70,000 direct jobs.
      The Council will provide direct perspective and feedback through active communication, resources and data on recreation industry topics, and feedback for strategic action plans.
       I encourage interested Montanans to apply to serve on the Get Outdoors Montana Advisory Council by visiting boards.mt.gov for an application. Applications are due by August 17, 2018. 

After Digging Out Crystals From a Spot in the Ground, One Needs to Classify Your Gravel on Site for the Final Take of the Dig; You Can Find Dandies Don't Ditch this Step

Techniques In Your Search For Agates

      Avid rock hounders with lots of experience can tell you that your search for agates can be dotted with the unusual.  I was told recently by hounders of the White Earth area that: you can go one day and find agates, go back the next day and have the area look totally different and have the earth show up with things that were not there the day before.

      The wind, the rain, and the mud can do unusual things to the gems laying in the ground. Some rocks will get buried deeper, some will get exposed. Lots of times it is the luck of the day's draw that means what you will take home with you. 

You might not need much of anything to get your gold...read this tip

Lincoln, Montana story told by a truck driver about prospecting.

       At our panning booth spontaneously a guy said as he pulled off the road at St. Regis, he parked near the river for a rest. Soon up pulls another truck. A guy gets out and promptly walks to the river and out onto a rock, laying down on it. He began scooping up dirt and putting it into a bag.

     He went up to the prostrate truck driver and asked him if he was looking for gold. The scooper said, "I do this frequently and you wouldn't believe how much gold I find!!"  Working smarter, not harder. 

Thinking Ahead and Reading for Details Helps you Get a Leg Up on your Prospecting Plans

Planning Your Prospecting Outings

      In talking with Allan Robertson, an avid prospecting YouTube presentor he mentioned he had a three day opportunity in the Helena area when he was coming for an Avalanche Gulch day tour gold panning event. When searching the idea for some other places in the area to pan, asked him about Radersburg. He said he had never been there. Said he could check on Treasure Hunting year 2 but said, "What about Blue Jewel Mine as well for sapphires? 

     It was a go. There you have it: three sites in one trip. That's where it's at; knowing the spots is key and you can find them out on this webpage by checking out our treasure hunting excursions and their write ups. 

 

 

Wyoming John shows prospector how to process his concentrates with lots of tips throughout. There are many practical pointers like the bite test, tapping, and dipping if you listen. 

Gold Digging Tip from a Prospecting Manufacturer

      On a recent visit to Gold Fox manufacturing site, Kelly Fowler, the owner said, "When there are tailing piles on your claim, dig the earth down below the pile because the tailings were put on virgin ground. Hmmm...told him that's exactly what we did on the Blackfoot River Prospecting Club's claim; you always find gold when you dig below the surface and back into the ground. 

      This was the perfect tip from an expert at finding much of Montana's gold. It has proven a very helpful tip because it works!! These piles can be found all around Lincoln, Montana. 

 

 

Employing Strategies in Your Search for Gold

      For three years now the trek to Zortman for the Big Dig has given opportunity to stand in line for the small numbers of gold nuggets found from two days of digging gravel to just draw blanks and go home with just the experience. That's good, but if one really wanted to get gold, the Blackfoot claim always comes up with gold.

      Why not join the Blackfoot Prospecting Club, use the very productive Little Monster to process your gravel on site with those riffles of the sluice catching gold readily. Much simpler way of filling your vial especially if you dig in virgin ground under the tailings. Smarter not harder. 

 

 

     This is the feeling when you have been run over by the USFS and you get word from Senator Daines's office, "What does your prospecting club want?" 

      What do you mean? We have an opportunity to negotiate? So our pressure with going to the state advisors, multiple meetings and letters to Daines' office, national magazines and organizations representing our constant point: WE NEED ACCESS TO OUR CLAIM!!! worked. Totally amazing!!!! More than two years of working on it! Are they fast action people?

      We celebrate the statutory rights of the prospector to mine our claim without the games of closing our roads, played by the USFS. Success for the moment. We'll see how it goes.

     One note says that the meetings set up by the Lewis and Clark Forest Service is for Travel Plan talk. Wouldn't traveling a few feet over your culvert qualify especially if it is used for fire suppression as well? That counts, doesn't it? Oh, and how about travel of your backhoe into your claim...that's travel too, right?

There's a difference between panning for sapphires vs gold

Was I right?:   While coming up out of the sapphire mine area on the El Dorado Bar out of Helena, we stopped at a turnout to check out the rocks on a wall of shale. My partner took the buckets and went into the washout alongside the road.

      He took the classifiers and was shaking the gravel to bring concentrate home to pan. As he brought the bucket back to the car, I asked him what he was searching for. He said he was looking for sapphires; I thought he was looking for gold as it washes down with water. I said, “The sapphires are found way down along the water below. You won’t find any sapphires up top here.” Was he searching for the wrong gemstone?

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     I questioned my son with the same proposition. He thought you could find sapphires up on top the mountain. Called Gem Mountain of Phillipsburg and asked the same question. “Was I right?  ”                                                                                                              The guy said, “It just depends where the sapphires came from. Our sapphires were formed by volcanic activity. When the volcano blew, the sapphires fell down to the ground. We find ours on the top 12 feet of a mountain top. The sapphires at the El Dorado Bar were formed by being forced up from the earth’s crust and would therefore be where they dig by the water mostly.”        So apparently truth was right considering the spot we were talking about. So the place to dig is based upon the geological information of an area. Application of logic depends upon knowledge. Asking and learning more prior to a visit is always helpful but you don’t always think of it. Was I right? It depends!

Cheap & Easy

     Ditch your piepettes and the sucker tubes, the easiest way to get gold out of your pan with water is to use the free infant medicine dropper from any pharmacy.

     Here's the advantages:

  • you get clean gold because it spits the debris back out.
  • the gold sits in the very bottom corner of the dropper for visibility as you suck it out of your gold pan.
  • you can get all the gold out of your pan without to stop and clean out the dropper
  • it is excellent fine gold recovery easy still; no special tools or ordering
  • dispenses into your vial easily with the flick of your finger

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Agates and Where You Can Find Them in Montana

     When you befriend rock hounders you get a heap of ideas of how to expand your Montana prospecting experiences. I found that to be true with Josh Saksa and his 406 Minerals. This spring when I went to set my prospecting schedule of desires and wants, I asked Josh Saksa where he would recommend an adventurous group go in search of rocks. He said several possibilities one of which was White Earth Campground. Looked it up, easy access put it on the list months ago.

    

     Messaged him recently for details. He said, “You need a boat.” What? I replied, you never said anything about that!! But through the dialogue I got details as to where to go and how to find agates. Here is the photo and he says with every rainfall the agates are unearthed. He said scale the fingers in the circle and they are easy to find. I think I can do it with those details. Got a bunch of agates so know what I am looking for without someone guiding me. See what you can do too!

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Gold in Them 'Thar Hills!!

               When my friend Patty was young she would work on dude ranches in the summer for money and industry. One summer she was up north of Great Falls working with a family that had lived in the area outside of Choteau all their lives. When she was there, a flash flood of 1964, the year we graduated from Great Falls High School, and the small creek covered the entire valley.

               After the flood and evacuation had passed the lady owner told Patty, “See those hills across the valley. Every year, gold washes down the river in the springtime.” This old timer knew the process of gold distribution from up above to down below, knew it and shared it. A worthy tip to a young girl.

               Would love to see on a map of Montana what hill she was pointing to. But the truth be known, gold is always being unearthed all the time. We just need to go explore the possibilities

Ideas For Planning Your Next Summer's Possible US Outings

Top 8 Places to Go Gem Hunting On Your Next Family Vacation

Similar to the therapeutic relaxation of tossing a fishing line or hand-pressing fresh dough, a methodic hunt of natural resources—that is, finding gems—is worth a vacation, too. Consider taking a vacation to one of these geologically rich destinations and you might just find enough gemstones or precious metals to pay for the trip, because you can keep everything you find. You're guaranteed to have a good time looking—even if you come up empty.

Hiddenite Gem Mines, North Carolina

Famously popular, Hiddenite Gem Mines is known for the discovery of some of the largest gems in the world. Comprised of several mines, Hiddenite Gem Mine’s group includes Emerald Hollow Mine—which is open for public mining—Adams Mine and NAEM (North American Emerald Mine). At this Great Smoky Mountain-area mine in Franklin, North Carolina, about 60 miles southwest of Blowing Rock, you might find rubies, sapphires, garnets, and rutile. Your admission fee gets you two buckets, a screen box, and a seat cushion, which you use at the flume line. For a dollar extra, you can get a shade umbrella. Admission: $15 for ages 12 and up, $10 for kids 6 to 11; free for ages 5 and under.

Crater of Diamonds State Park, Arkansas

The Crater of Diamonds volcanic pipe is part of a 95-million-year-old eroded volcano. The deeply sourced lamproite magma, from the upper mantle, brought the diamonds to the surface. The diamonds had crystallized in the cratonic root of the continent long before and were sampled by the magma as it rose to the surface. For a fee of a few dollars you can enter the mine, search all day and keep any diamonds that you find. In addition to diamonds, you might find one of the many colorful gemstones that occur naturally there. These include: amethyst, agate, jasper, garnet, peridot, hematite and many others. Crater of Diamonds State Park is a 911-acre (369 ha) Arkansas state park in Pike County, Arkansas, in the United States. In addition to diamonds, visitors may find semi-precious gems such as amethyst, agate, and jasper or approximately 40 other minerals such as garnet, phlogopite, quartz, baryte, and calcite.
Morefield Mine, Amelia, Virginia

The Morefield Gem Mine is a unique experience for children and adults alike. The mine is a great introduction to minerals and mineral collecting at a real mine. The mine is a great introduction for anyone, any age, who wants to find rocks, minerals, and gems and learn to identify them.  No less that 10 minerals species can be found on any day and with experience, time, and depending on what is being mined underground, more of the almost 80 mineral species occurring in the Morefield pegmatite can be found.

Crystal Grove Diamond Mine, St. Johnsville, New York

New York is home to Broadway shows, plenty of shopping, Times Square, and the Statue of Liberty, but did you know New York is a great place to mine for gemstones? Crystal Grove Diamond Mine is the place to go to find Herkimer diamonds, beautiful quartz crystals that are fun to mine. These crystals were first discovered in New York, and the perfect clarity of some of these stones makes them very popular with gem hunters.

Royal Peacock Mine,Virgin Valley, Nevada

Since 1981, the Royal Peacock Opal Mine has been open to the public as a pay-to-dig mine. It has yielded countless world-class precious opal specimens during that time. Digging isn't cheap, though. They charge $180 per person per day to dig in the fire-opal-rich bank area and $75 to dig in the mine dumps and tailings (piles of rock extracted from the mine).
Himalaya Mine, Mesa Grande District, California

The Himalaya Tourmaline Mine is located near Santa Ysabel, CA at Lake Henshaw in the beautiful Mesa Grande.   Visitors can dig at Lake Henshaw Resort where they will dig and screen through ore from the world famous Himalaya Mine. Many minerals can be found including pink and green tourmaline, black tourmaline, quartz crystals, spessertine garnet, lepidolite, clevelandite, and a variety of others.
Adult Dig $75, youth 13 years old to 15 years old half price ($37.50), children 12 years old and under are free with paying adult.

Gold ‘N Gem Grubbin’ mine, Gold Nugget Ln Cleveland, Georgia

It started as a commercial gold mine and opened to the public in 1984. At Gold n Gem Grubbin you can pan for gold and screen for gemstones in a convenient sluices sitting comfortably under shade trees with a view of our 7 acre lake. The mine's trained staff will teach you the art of gold panning just like the old timers did it!
What you may Find Gold, Gemstones (Rubies, Emeralds, Sapphires, Amethyst, Garnets). There is no admission fee, we have free parking and handicap facilities.

Ron Coleman Mining, Jessieville,  Arkansas

Ron Coleman Mining has been the premiere destination for hands-on mining and precious gem gifts for nearly 30 years. Families and visitors come from all over the country to see our mine in Jessieville, Arkansas, and to dig their own gems. This mine was and is the most productive quartz mine in Arkansas. It has been producing quartz crystals in large quantities since 1943.

Prospecting Tips

     Since the inception of our Central Montana Prospector Coalition organization there has been many opportunities to hear prospecting stories and hear ideas of developing your own personal plan for this fabulous outdoor recreational activity. Many of these tips are given because we have a booth at the Great Falls Farmers' Market and we have onsite contact with people from many places in the United States.

      This page is intended as a service for you in order to make plans of enjoying the great state of Montana independently from a club possibly. Choose a place and go for it! We are happy to share these significant pointers in order to expand your knowledge and experience in recreational prospecting.

    

Dewey,  MT

   A guy that was born and raised in Dewey, MT living in Great Falls recomended to us at our Farmers' Market booth for anyone who wanted to prospect, go to Dewey, MT because anyone can prospect anywhere around that town.

   There is  Quartz Hill is located about 5 miles south of Dewey, Montana and off Highway 43. This is a serious place for rock hounding which could be included in your gold prospecting plans.

Bannack

   A great tip that was given to me at our first Farmers' Market booth about prospecting in Montana was given by a resident of SW Montana.

   He knew that if you called up the Bannack Grazing Association they will give you permission to prospect anywhere on that land around Bannack.

   This gives you access to large area of land in SW Montana.

   Founded in 1862 and named after the local Bannock Indians, it was the site of a major gold discovery in 1862, and served as the capital of Montana Territory briefly in 1864, until the capital was moved to Virginia City.

   This was the begining of our Montana cultural heritage of recreational prospecting. Utilize your heritage!

Dream It

   There is a technique that if you write out a question and put it under your pillow you will dream about it during your sleep.

   If you have questions in your mind about where to prospect or how to do it just use this simple technique.

   One day while swiming I realized that I had a dream several days earlier that had highlighted four specific mini lakes around Montana where I should go in

search of gold. Later I drew circles these areas so i would be sure to include them in my plans because trusting in inner insites are things to be trusted.

   Prospectors always trust their hunches and you can get them from dreams as well. Just ask with the dream technique; keep working on it as answers will come.

 

GPAA

   When one is a member of the Gold Prospectors Association of America you have access to this national organizations claims not only in Montana but throughout the nation as well. In Montana there are claims in Radersburg, Libby, Cooke City, Zortman, Gallatin National Forest.

   A member can bring 5 additonal people with them to these claims so its helpful to hook up with a member to get into these claims to check them out before you join. Message us on our Blog or see us at our booth at the Great Falls Farmers' Market and we can help you out.

 

Ruby River

   Don't forget to consider panning for garnets along the banks of the Ruby River. Many a prospector has been succesful in gathering  garnets along these shores. A prospecting family recently reported that it is free and open to the public everyday. The Ruby River gives forth garnets as well as the Ruby Resevoir. This brings many more miles of prospecting choices to you besides the lake shore there.

The lighter colored bowl is from the country above Mexico and the other one to the right is from the continent that has Nigeria in it. Now do you know?

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